virginia, you know, what in virginia? and that's -- you know, the secret to virginia for the president is that, romney and ryan are basically alienating federal workers in virginia. saying we're going to cut the size of government. that's going over well there. plus the demographic divide in the state that i think president obama is uniquely able to exploit. and i think that that's why he's leading. >> so has mitt romney's message, how does it stay -- >> i was in ohio a few weeks ago, and you really see what we're talking ak. there was a joint meeting between kasich and romney and romney was saying to the audience, how terrible, it's awful. practically out of a movie in the '30s and casey would say, you young people, this economy son its way back. i was told, the romney people weren't entirely thrilled about that message, and it's a trick. i mean, it's a -- >> republicans have been trying to argue, hey, look at republican governor, and things are improving whether it's republican governors -- they're trying to figure ow h